On this blog you’ll find many posts, discussions, questions, examples and articles on the subject of the Marvels Cine Picture Style for Canon HDSLR cameras. We have decided to dedicate this page to our latest release version (Marvels Cine 3.4).
Marvels Cine Picture Style v.3.4 (final) Click here to download
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Do not forget to read the original articles (with the Phil Holland tests) “Finally, the new marvels cine profile 3-x for canon dslr“ and “Installing Canon Picture Styles for Dummies” (no offence 😉
About this version
This version is a replacement for our (latest) standard Marvels Cine Style v3.3. It uses a slightly altered curve, made to preserve luminance linearity in the 65-75% (skin tone) range. It further uses the internal Canon Neutral style instead of the Standard style, but this can be altered from the selected style settings menu in the camera.
This picture style has been tested by over 2000 DSLR film makers worldwide during it’s beta stage. All reports, issues, comments and discussions on our blog were taken into consideration before the release of this final version. Marvels Film has shot two music videos, two documentaries, two interviews and lots of test footage with this style during the beta stage.
Marvels vs. Technicolor
With the Marvels profile 3.4 you will be able to use the maximum dynamic range of your sensor, contrary to the Technicolor CineStyle profile! You can make the Marvels profile as flat as the Technicolor profile by altering it’s curve, dialing the contrast setting further down.
Installation
Please read the installation instructions here. You can also search this blog for the many posts on the subject.
License
The Marvels Cine Picture Style v.3.4 file by Marvels Film has been licensed following a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 3.0 Unported licence. CC BY-NC-ND. License details: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/
For any reuse, distribution or commercial application of the Marvels Cine Picture Style, you must apply to the license terms of this work. The best way to do this is including a link to our web page http://www.marvelsfim.com, or mentioning Martin Beek or MARVELSFILM as creator of the picture style.
Hall of Fame
We want to encourage users to tell us what they have achieved with the Marvels Cine picture profiles (old an new). Music videos, short movies, feature films, commercials – we love to hear about your projects shot with Marvels Cine! The Marvels Cine picture style is (and will remain) free to use and distribute. A mention of our name or a donation is much appreciated (see below). Please leave your name, email address and project description as a comment at the bottom of this page!
Donation
Each year around the 23th of December, i donate at least 50% of my yearly “picture style income” to charity, via eBay GivingWorks and (previousely) eBay MissionFish. Between 2011 and 2015 i donated 554 dollars to 4 different charity projects, thanks to your generous donations.
Donate HERE by PayPal or Creditcard if you use our Picture Style.
It’ll be well spent!
Martin
Marvelsfilm's Blog 
great work guys, curiously i was just reading about a technicolor and canon project developing their own cine style- wondering what you guys will think of that, for now this is a recent april 1 project shot at an old abandoned Navy base with Marvel Cinestyle 3.3. http://vimeo.com/21819312 im feeling some scenes are kind of sharp, might be my own fault. thanks for the great work and have a nice day- Nate Parker.
“One Way Trip” by NVMSI (Music Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIZlDvIIZr4&sns=em (link)
5:04 mins.
Description:
-Grindhouse scifi hybrid theme
-Canon 60d
-Marvels Cine 1.2 works great for chroma key
Canon 60D
hello!!!i can see the Marvels Cine Picture Style in the menu in photo mode but i can noy see then in video mode in my canom 60D…eny help? thank!!
Hello Christos.
That’s very strange! There is no difference between photography and video styles. But… i’ve found other people with the same problem. Here is an article on DVInfo addressing the subject:
Martin.
Hi, greats source and PS. Question would you recommend Marvels Cine Picture Style v.3.4 fr travel video shooting? I’m going to China with my 7D! 🙂
Hi!! He my 3.4 Tests!!
Tnks…
http://vimeo.com/22022880
http://vimeo.com/19979305
This is a greenscreen suit video we shot with Marvel Cine 3.3 on the 7D.
James
colorchartfilm.com
Did a quick test comparing Standard, Neutral, and MC 3.4. Hope this helps.
http://vimeo.com/22422517
Hi there. I have a commercial which I shot on green screen which was shot using the Cine Style 3..3 on a Canon 5D MarkII.. I would like to submit the commercial to you for inclusion on your website. Hopefully it might give others an idea of how well the Cine Style works with green screen elements. I found the Marvels Cine Style very easy to work with in Adobe After Effects compositing program. Do you have an email address to which I would send the video file as an attachment?
all the best from Canada
Paul Taylor
Hello Paul. Sorry for the late reply. Please send me all info you want to share to m.beek at marvelsfilm.com. I’d love to hear about your green screen experience!
I have no idea what my maximum mailbox size is at the moment, but easier is to use http://www.wetransfer.com (free 2.5GB one-click file sharing).
Cheers,
Martin
Hello Mike.
Thanks for that. I always love to see the style at work.
Martin.
Cool!
Martin
Hi Ancient 😉
That’s absolutely fabulous stuff!
Thanks for sharing!
Martin
Hi Anders.
If you are not planning to do any color grading in post, stick with the Neutral style; otherwise YES!
Cheers!
Martin
Uthayan.
Done!
Martin
Man oh man!
I’ve been looking for something like this for ages and came across you via this vimeo video: http://www.vimeo.com/7256322
I can’t wait to shot with my Canon 7D and your picture style! Wonderful blog, great layout and super cool!
Thanks!
Richard.
PS I sometimes do work in Holland (Hilversum), so I owe you a beer or two!
Thanks Richard. I hope you like it!
Martin
Hi. What setting for your picture style do you recommend? I mean sharpness, saturation…
Hi could you confirm that once the style is loaded that the other settings are sharpness and contrast all the way down, saturation down 2 clicks and the last one ( i forget ) stays the same.
Best
Davideo
Luqyb9 http://gdjI3b7VaWpU1m0dGpvjRrcu9Fk.com
I just made some test shots and iam very happy with this picture style.
Thanks for putting your time into this.
I do have one question tough. Do i have to turn highlight priority on or off?
Make sure to switch hlp off!! The processor has problems with keeping up the speed, resulting in posterizing of gradients.
Cheers!
Martin
Video reviews to come! This body is rock solid and worthy of purchase for ANY and ALL people entering or needing an advanced DSLR camera. I purchased the body only – I have several lenses from my previous Canons which are NOT currently ‘IS’ lenses. I’ve been shooting people, places and other things for more than 45 years and LOVE this camera. It’s extremely mobile. I can just flip open my tripod lock and GO! My only issue with the T3i concerns the GRID functions. These work only in LIVE VIEW MODE (as I’ve found so far). As soon as you move up to manual for full control, you lose the grid (I use the 3×3), which helps me set my composition. Yes, I can use my eye to place an imaginary grid in the viewfinder, but WHY when one is readily available.
With my additions on the camera already, video/image reviews will be plentiful. As I learn new tricks and shortcuts, I’ll inform the public so they too can enjoy ALL of the features of this outstanding camera. The articulating screen wasn’t necessary, yet it IS what made me choose this model over the T2i. The prices were just too close to pass it up. I’ll be adding more T3i and T2i cameras to my photo biz in the coming months, as well as trying out the ‘IS’ lenses. This camera is very tight on power consumption and has extreme accuracy when you set it for pinpoint focusing as I do for model and portrait photography work. The macro features are also on par with its more advanced (and WAY higher priced), big brothers to this camera. Now, the 18.1MP sensor…..WOW! The image sizes of the CMOS sensor allow me great latitude in adjusting and tweaking my RAW images anytime I wish to be creative. If you are just starting out, are bored with the out of date “point-n-shoot,” want to upgrade your digital cams, or you want to move from film to digital, the T3i will not disappoint. It’s an excellent camera for ANY level of photographer – beginner or experienced pro, this camera really shines. Oh, and the video…..It’s 1080p HD, nothing more needs to be said. Canon, you’ve been ROCKIN’ my images for years!!!! Stay cool and keep up the great work. Dr. C, Photographic Adventures, Ltd – I’m outta here and back to taking pics!!!
Really nice pictureStyle. We used it for a short film clip called
“Escape the Dead”
http://www.youtube.com/user/mirandabros?feature=mhee
Then color graded it with Mojo.
Keep up the neat CineStyle presets! I’ll be sure to use them.
I am doing a documentary film and here is a short trailer everything is shot with Marvel Advanced 3.4 final (some shots might be with cine style)
Hi Marvelsfilm,
take a look here:
Castles & Châteaux – Paragliding / Aerial Video
550D + Marvels Cine Style 3.4
Thanks
Mike
Wow! Great stuff and thanks for posting.
Martin
What are the best settings for this profile?
If I set contast to minimum, do I get plastic faces?
Thank you.
Please, give recommendations which settings are best for doing color correction in post and for not doing it using Marvels 3.4 profile.
Just wanted to let everyone know that I shot an art video for Performa 11 using Marvels 3.4 picture style. I shot in the field in Botswana. Very happy with the range I ended up with and the end results. Here is the Robert Smith review of the piece in the NY Times. Tomorrow I’ll shoot the performance portion in studio. But wanted to give a shout out the developers and those on this board.
NYT Review: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/11/arts/design/mika-rottenberg-and-jon-kessler-seven.html
Mahyad Tousi
Hey man thanks for the great profile. I was wondering if i should also use this profile with still photos since i always post process my photos later on photoshop and lightroom, or if i should only use it with videos?
I wanted to know. What do you mean when you say, “It further uses the internal Canon Neutral style instead of the Standard style, but this can be altered from the selected style settings menu in the camera”?
How would I alter Marvel 3.4 from neutral to standard inside the camera without having 3.4 and 3.3? I ask because I like both and I keep both in the camera, at User def. 1 and User def. 2.
However, it’d be convenient if I could use one.
Hello Sawrab. Sorry for the delayed reply.
If you go to the Marvels Style loaded in User Def 1, you can stil select the base style.
Further you can alter the contrast setting, that will flatten out the picture even more. But beware; this can result in the infamous “plastic skin look”.
CHeers,
Martin
Yes Amgad! You can use it for stills photography too, for the same good reason; recording as many shades of light as possible.
Cheers,
Martin.
What do you think about a custom Canon picture style that will make matching footage with a GH2 easier?
I’ve been experimenting with both cameras, trying to find settings that match the most in camera, and it occurred to me that there really could be an easier way… What do you think? Sound like something worth pursuing?
I can’t find the official s-curve of this user style. where is it?
Can you be more specific, i don’t understand the question.
Thanks,
Martin
Hello M.
The problem i experience with the GH2 is, that the picture has much more detail and clarity. It is a newer and more advanced sensor than the Canon DSLR sensors. If you zoom-in on a Canon frame, things get pretty blurry and blocky at 200%, with a GH2 frame, the picture is still very acceptable at 200%.
So, that is my main problem with the Canons; they are not sharp and suffer from a lot of sensor issues, specially in video mode. This apart from the field of view and depth of field differences due to different sensor size.
The only way you can match the GH2 with the Canon is by blurring the picture (dial up noise reduction, dial down sharpness) and lower the saturation. If you further dial down contrast on the GH2 and load the Marvels Cine 3.4 on the Canon, i think you’ll get the best match. Probably need to blur and grade some more in post on the GH2 footage.
I admit, the Canon DSLRs and the GH2 are not a pair made in heaven..!
Cheers,
Martin Beek
Martin,
Thanks for your response.
I understand the difference in sharpness between the two cams. Here’s the thing- I currently shoot with a dual Canon setup. I recently acquired a GH2 and would like to swap one of the cameras used with that one (especially on wide shots, where moire and/or aliasing could rear its ugly head more often).
So, if anything, I don’t mind softening the GH2 to closely match the Canons because it won’t look any worse than what I’ve been doing all along (which the client was happy with). However, I think that if Canons are used for close up shots (which naturally have more bokeh), the difference in sharpness will be far less noticeable. My concern is in color matching the two.
I conducted a quick test to see how closely I could match the two in camera (trying to make my life in post easier):
Its not bad, IMO. I think the difference in sharpness isn’t as distracting as I would have expected. But color correction is not one of my strengths. That is why I wonder if a Canon picture style to make the colors more closely resemble what the GH2 gets in camera would make my life (and everyone else who is doing this) easier.
Or perhaps vice-versa would be easier? I know the GH2 has their “film modes”, which are sort of similar to Canon’s picture style. Maybe getting the GH2 to match Canon is easier than the other way around. Or perhaps a happy medium between the two? I guess someone with both cameras would really need to experiment. But this sounds like it is beyond my technical skill level at the moment.
The upcoming feature ‘Generation Me’ was shot entirely on the 7D and T2i with Marvels Cinestyle v3.3
http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi1967889945/
Hi, Martin! Happy upcoming New Year! Thank you for your dedication to this important project this year! I’d like to ask you to comment your phrase: “Further you can alter the contrast setting, that will flatten out the picture even more. But beware; this can result in the infamous “plastic skin look”.” Alter it to max or min? What setting gives Plastic skin look and how to avoid it?
Thanks!
Ericka, if you have NOT yet received my email, can you please contact me via m.beek at marvels film dot com ?
Thanks!
Hi, Martin! I’m asking this question the third time and it’s still unclear to me. I’d like to know more about the plastic skin effect. When does it appear and how to avoid it? Thank you.
Here is a write up I did on the Marvel Cinestyle profile // Hope you guys like it ! ^_^ http://blog.kidzrevil.co.uk/exclusives/articles/getting-the-most-out-of-your-canon-video-footage-with-marvel-cinestyle-3-4/
Hi there. I’m wondering if you have a picture profile for the Sony EX1 that would match the Marvels CineStyle (for Canon 5Dm2.) I’d like to match the two together …
Thank you in advance for your reply.
Hi jorg,
I saw your article about cinestyle and found it very interesting. first thanks about your work and sahre it, marvel is really a good profile which i appréciate and use a lot. i have a question for you because i can’t understand all about that
i saw 10% which you talk about on the scope but when i gradded the footage (lut buddy when i have not time or traditionnal gradding) i can have a full DR on the scope and don’t see problem.
I compare with marvel cine 3.4 and when gradding the two i can’t determinate some loose in the shadows for the cinestyle… even if i make an exaggerate gradding… i have pretty close result, on the rush like on the scope. have you some example where we can see the limit.
Second thing ? why professional like technicolor would make a profil like this whith 10% DR lost ? it’s strange No ? maybe there is a reason which i don’t understand and which is appropriate with eos dslr ?
Thanks for help
Thanks for the info. 🙂
thanks for share nich article 😀
Got my 7D 2 days ago. Still exploring the possibilities of this camera. Just figured out that you can use the EOS utility for editing easy the copyright info in your camera with your keyboard. Thanks for the profile. I will test it soon.
Saludos de Tucumán, Michael
I honestly don’t know WHAT you guys did in the kitchen to create Marvels 3.4, but I love it and HIGHLY appreciate it.
Not too long ago I totally converted over to LOG profiles as they’re akin to digital film in look and behavior. So with that, I decided to remain exclusive to the Technicolor Cinestyle. However, as nice as the profile was, the more I used it, the more I disliked what it did to the low-mids and blacks of every image (with Canon’s DSLR compression, making matters much worse).
Then I decided to try out Marvels 3.4 and constantly worked in mid-light situations and low-light situations. I noticed that Marvels could see the exact same details as the Cinestyle, only I didn’t lose my blacks information. It was all there.
Needless to say, I had to swallow my pride and converted to 3.4. Now when I transcode, I use either Cineform or DNxHD 10bit RGB (which flattens even MORE) It’s been really hard to use any other profile now because of you guys.
Again, dunno what you did, but you essentially created a LOG profile, without resorting to destroying what information is left in the 8bit color space. And, for that, I commend you guys!
Hello
I was just wondering why the version 3.3 is based on the standard picture profile and 3.4 is on the neutral picture style.
What happened to 3.3 argumentation:
“the Neutral picture style is colorimetric not ideal, to use as a basis for developing new flat styles”
and
“The Standard style setting is used as a basis for this new style, because the s-curve required this in respect to the skin colours – for colorimetric and exposure reasons.”
?
It would be nice with an explanation.
Please leave your name, email address and project description as a comment at the bottom of this page!
http://vimeo.com/39695601
Indoor basketball game (NYC Mayor’s Cup)
60fps Canon T3i
Marvel Cine Picture Style
Edited on 23.976 timeline
Color correction/grading in FCPX
Hello Jeppe. I’ve forwarded your question to Jorgen Escher.
Martin.
Hello Kahleem.
Thanks for your kind words. I also truly believe that Marvels 3.4 is the best profile around today. People that want a flatter look, they can just dial down Contrast even further – but have to be aware of the infamous “plastic skin” effect.
Thanks and kind regards,
Martin Beek
https://vimeo.com/39695601
I shot the NYC Basketball Mayor’s Cup using Marvels Cine style:
Bragging rights in the Public Schools Athletic League will be in the Bronx and Queens for the year, as the Bronx/Queens teams defeated the Manhattan/Brooklyn/Staten Island squad in the Mayor’s Cup at City College of New York. The Mayor’s cup pits the best seniors in the PSAL against one another. The Bronx/Queens team capitalized on two missed free throws by arguably the best player in the league, Leroy “Truck” Fludd, and scored a late basket to squeak out the thrilling victory in overtime. The Bronx/Queens team took a lead on a layup by JFK’s Muhammed Ahmed following Fludd’s misses, and the Manhattan/Brooklyn/Staten Island team had a chance to win the game late but couldn’t connect. Eagle Academy’s Najee Senior was named MVP for scoring 15 points while Wadleigh’s Basil Harley scored 26 in a losing effort. Senior scored all of his points in the final four minutes of the fourth quarter and overtime.
60fps Canon T3i
Edited on 23.976 timeline
Color correction/grading in FCPX
Hi Marvelsfilm,
take a look here:
Castles & Châteaux – Paragliding / Aerial Video
550D + Marvels Cine Style 3.4
Thanks
Mike
Just thought i would post my thought. I recently purchased the Canon eos 7D. I love it, if you are serious about photograph then i would suggest that camera. The features on that thing are amazing, I mite just be overwhelmed with this camera, but really i just love it.
Hi, great Work,
Do you have a LUT for the cinestyle, e.g. for davinci Resolve 9.0 Lite? Or is there any way to built one myself? If I use the canon software I can see the curve, but if I click on the points, I allready alter the curve and don’t think I can get the right values…
Cheers & Thanks for the style,
Sebastian
What settings (sharpness, saturation etc.) are recommended when using Marvel’s picture profile (flat as possible)? I see more people have asked this, but I can’t fins any answer anywhere. Also FAQ, anyone?
Hello, I enjoyed using Marvels Cine Style v3.3 very much. It just transforms standard Canon DSLR’s camera’s capability and brings it closer to the RED and other RAW shooting cinema cameras. In post you feel that you are working with RAW video, it’s great, thank you! Here is the short I’ve shot with my Canon 7D on which I’ve installed Marvels Cine Style v3.3.
https://vimeo.com/56357640
I would love to see this for Sony Alpha cameras too.
Abby
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We shot my short documentary with Marvel Cine on 5dmkIII and 60D. We won a doc contest with it! Check it out!
The Middle Way – Documentary Short (2014) from Luca Tarantini on Vimeo.
Is there a picture style indian summer?
I meant will this software work with the Canon 70D?????
Yes it will!
I just made a modest donation (sorry I’m not rich) fro this wonderful picture style for my oldie 40D which has now become a goodie thanks to your Marvel! Thank you so much!
The download links don’t work for me… How can I get this?
Hi there! I can’t download it from the link because I don’t have permission. Is this picture style paid or something?
Hello Eduardo.
I have updated the download location. Please go to the Cine Profile page at https://marvelsfilm.wordpress.com/marvels-cine-canon/ and retry.
Thanks and regards,
Martin Beek
Hello Mark.
I have updated the download location. Please go to the Cine Profile page at https://marvelsfilm.wordpress.com/marvels-cine-canon/ and retry.
Thanks and regards,
Martin Beek