UPDATE april 2011: please follow the link “marvels cine for hdslr” at the top of this blog for more information and updated profile.
UPDATE JAN 8 2011: New version available from this post!
After getting hands-on experience and feedback from users of the new Marvels Picture profiles (2.3 and Panalog) posted below, i am currently pushing forward (in our planning) the development of the new and final Marvels Cine Flat profile “3.1”. I, as a filmmaker with a specific taste for the elusive “film look”, am not entirely satisfied with the s-curve that has been provided by Bart Keimen for the recent profiles. I am currently test shooting with an all new picture profile that is much more advanced than any other profile and with an s-curve that is not only mathematically correct, but also mimics the s-curve of film stock AND offers control over it’s “flatness”. The profiles will no longer be made with the Canon Picture Profile Editor, but with an in-house developed application; it’s crude and not sexy, but can calculate curves based on mathematical functions instead of user/mouse input. The mathematical functions have been provided by Jorg Escher of Fraunhofer and we’ll work together next week to finalize the application and provide one or more profiles to work with. So, for now, i regard the “2.3” picture profiles as betas for you all to experiment with.
Hello all.
We are happy to announce the release of two additional versions of our latest “Marvels Cine 2.1 Panalog” picture style. And two all new Flat picture style files; all for your Canon D-range (pun not intended) DSLR cameras.
Two additional profile versions have been made from the latest v.2.3 “Panalog” style, addressing style settings only – for your convenience – and two are new profiles based on the latest “Panalog” version, but with the color correction disabled, offering only the slight s-curve to “flatten” the picture without color changess.
As from now, i will configure two versions per existing Marvels style, one for low contrast situations and one for high contrast situations. These are using the same s-Curve, but with different Contrast settings, that you can alter yourself to taste.
Here is the list of all available Marvels Cine Style picture profiles for the Canon cameras. .pf2 and zip files provided, as well as a one-file download of all styles.
Please use this post as the official and final download page for all Marvels Picture Styles.
- new: Marvels LOWc 2.3
Slight “best of both worlds” s-Curve for useful flattening of the picture, without introducing flattening artifacts such as “plastic faces” and other 8-bit color gamma defects. Optimized for low contrast shooting situations (e.g. indoors, night).
Classification: No color correction. Light flattening.
Version 2.3 of december 5 2010, by Martin Beek and Bart Keimen, Marvels Film.
Permanent download link: .pf2 file zip file
- new: Marvels HIc 2.3
Slight “best of both worlds” s-Curve for useful flattening of the picture, without introducing flattening artifacts such as “plastic faces” and other 8-bit color gamma defects. Optimized for high contrast shooting situations (e.g. outdoors, film lighting).
Classification: No color correction. Moderate flattening.
Version 2.3 of december 5 2010, by Martin Beek and Bart Keimen, Marvels Film.
Permanent download link: .pf2 file zip file
- new: Marvels Panalog LOWc 2.3
Slight “best of both worlds” s-Curve for useful flattening of the picture, with color correction based on a mapping of the Panavision Genesis Panalog Style, using a Panavision Genesis camera, a macBeth color card and a Canon 7D. Optimized for low contrast shooting situations (e.g. indoors, night).
Classification: Advanced color correction. Light flattening. Panavision Genesis simulation.
Version 2.3 of november 28 2010, by Martin Beek and Bart Keimen, Marvels Film.
Permanent download link: .pf2 file zip file
- new: Marvels Panalog HIc 2.3
Slight “best of both worlds” s-Curve for useful flattening of the picture, with color correction based on a mapping of the Panavision Genesis Panalog Style, using a Panavision Genesis camera, a macBeth color card and a Canon 7D. Optimized for high contrast shooting situations (e.g. outdoors, film lighting).
Classification: Advanced color correction. Moderate flattening. Panavision Genesis simulation.
Version 2.3 of november 28 2010, by Martin Beek and Bart Keimen, Marvels Film.
Permanent download link: .pf2 file zip file - Marvels Cine Flat Picture Style v.1.2 (“Classic”)
The renowned and widely used (+23.000 downloads) Marvels Cine flat picture style.
Featured in many DSLR indie movies, music videos and even feature films.
The above profiles are NOT a replacement for this extra-flat cinestyle s-Curve profile – this profile is still actual, being used and updated. Should be manually adjusted for low/high contrast situations using the camera profile’s “Contrast” setting. Dial contrast completely down for high contrast and to “-2” or “-3” for low contrast shooting situations.
Classification: No color correction. Very flat.
Version 1.2 of december 5 2010, by Martin Beek
Permanent download link: .pf2 file zip file - All-in-one up-to-date archive (zip) of all Marvels Cine Picture Styles
Permanent download link: zip file
Please use the links above to download Marvels picture styles. Webmasters/bloggers: please update your file links.
Feel free to distribute!
Cheers!
Thanks for sharing all this work you have done. I will have to try the new ones.
Thanks a lot for this!
Re: Marvels Cine Flat Picture Style v.1.2
I was shooting with it the other day and it/or indeed some combination of my settings, perhaps other than the style produced a pronounced moire and anti aliasing effect. I have since gone back to” 0,-4,-2, 0 and find this less likely to attract these effects. Is there a danger that the settings of this style exacerbate certain weaknesses with the 7D with reference to moire and anti aliasing? Or are there other issues at play here independent of the style?
why is the “Marvels Panalog HIc 2.3” labeled “marvel cine” in the download and in my camera?
I think you uploaded or posted the wrong link =( .
Woops, indeed – it’s just the display-name of the profie, not the settings or the curve. I will amend that today.
Martin
Bo..
This is totally new for me. Maybe sharpness and increased contrast can enhance some more effects, but these profiles are just meant to reduce contrast.
I suspect that indeed other issues are playing here. But please keep me posted on the issue, as i hope that others will do so too.
I will be shooting a real-life soap episode with the 5D tonight and other stuff this week using the Marvels profiles, so i’ll keep an eye on things…
Martin
How do I install these? Is there a tutorial for this somewhere?
Hey Martin,
I have another question for you, since I’m just beginning to learn in the ins and outs of gamma curves:
I noticed in the original Marvel’s Cine Flat Profile 1.2, the gif of the gamma curve you posted seems to have a fairly pronounced toe, but not so much of a shoulder. This looks like to me that you’re pushing the apparent middle part of dynamic range a bit higher up. And I’ve noticed in my tests that the picture occasionally looks a tad dark if I expose for it correctly with a incident meter light meter (especially in low-contrast scenes.)
Should I be compensating +1/3 or +2/3 a stop for proper exposure with this profile? Or should I be exposing normally (with a light meter) and adjusting the picture to my preference in post? Or should I just not use a light meter and eyeball it instead?
Am I misunderstanding the gamma curve?
-Dave
Hey Dave.
Sorry for the late reply! Holidays…
I have posted my answer to you as a new blog post. Please read the article on https://marvelsfilm.wordpress.com/
Cheers and a happy new year,
Martin
Martin, I’m having trouble downloading the new profiles off the all in one page. If I try to download the pf2 file, a window opens with giberish in it. If I try to download the zip file, a blank file downloads to my desktop. That is true for the LoC, HiC, and both Panalogs.
Michael
Hello Michael.
Sorry for the delayed reply. I have no idea what causes this. I have had complaints before and they were worked around by right-clicking the files and choosing Save-As from the pop-up menu.
On a Mac, that is Ctrl-Mousekey.
Cheers,
Martin Beek
Please forgive my pure noobness here. But I’m completely new to this whole custom picture deal.
Do any of these work with the T2i?
Thanks
-Ian
Yes! No problem, just use the Canon Remote cotrol app to upload the profile to your camera.
The Canon EOS-Capture remote control application can be downloaded from Canon (http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010252.asp)
Cheers!
Martin Beek
thanks a lot bro 😀
Hey – this is awesome!
I have a small issue – When I fallow your
great instructions – everything looks like
I’m on the right path. However, after i disconnect
my camera from the USB set up on my mac –
I look on my camera and all the Picture Styles
I downloaded – are not on the camera.
It seems I’m doing something wrong.
I’ve read thru this stuff like 6 times over
and am completely lost and why these settings
are not saved to my 7D.
Any guidance is super welcome!
This is a great site – Thanks so much
~G
Gomar.
DId you mean that the profile is on your camera as long as the USB cable is connected?
Martin
Hi, I have exactly the same problem as Gomar. I have managed to get it saved onto my 7D but then when I switch from M or C1 or C2 they disappear completely?
Soma
Hi
I’m new to these things so don’t know much about it. I have a mark 2 and I wanna give my videos the film look. I understand that these picture styles can help a great deal but could anyone help from where I should start from? I mean if I wanna shoot outdoors like in hard light situations, what kinda picture style will suit it and if I’m shooting indoors, what picture style should I choose?
Plz help.
Regards
Hi every one,
I downloaded the v3.3 and instaled onto my 60D (when using EOS Utility, you can only add picture styles in P mode) And it automatically appears in all the other PHOTO MODES, but in VIDEO, the camera still displays STANDART in the 3 USER DEF. (in PHOTO mode it sais USER DEF. 1 MARVEL ADVANCE)
The thing is, is there any chance that IT IS working in video mode even if it not display MARVEL ADVANCE??? (I imagine it is NOT working)… In that case, Is there any ther way to apply the Pisture Styles on the 60D??? or Do I better start saving to upgrade to a 7D???
Thanks mates! (from Venezuela)
i’m really impressed of your work here.
anyway one of your links needs to be corrected
Marvels Panalog HIc 2.3 has to be referring to
http://mediatube.marvelsfilm.com/marvels_cine_v2.3_flat_panalog_highc.zip
whilst now it refers to the flat HIc cinestyle file.
sorry, mistyping (me too 😉
the correct link
Marvels Panalog HIc 2.3
http://mediatube.marvelsfilm.com/marvels_cine_v2.3_panalog_highc.zip
Hi, I got the same problem here as Rafa.
The styles only pop-up in photo mode.
Does it work on a 550D ?
Greetzz
Martijn
All links are dead… “404 Not Found” Help plz
Can you be more specific? I have over 10 domains and websites up and running. Something with the Marvels cine profile? At the top of this blog, below the logo, is a link saying “Marvels Cine for Canon HDSLR”. Please got to that page and download the profile from there. I tried that and it works fine.
Cheers,
Martin
It does work on a 550D. Many 550D users use this profile for video, without a problem.
Since i don’t own one of those myself, i hope that another 550D owner can post a solution here!
All i can say is, please read “Installing Canon picture files for dummies
Cheers,
Martin
Hi, i can not find where i can download the version 3.3 of the Marvel cinestyle picture profile can some one give me the link to downloading it? Thanks
Sorry for my english (to download*)
Hi there. At the top of this site is a link “Marvels Cine for Canon HDSLR” -> https://marvelsfilm.wordpress.com/marvels-cine-canon/
Martin.