06
Jul
09

EX1 noise spoils shoot, i’ve really had it with the Sony EX series!!

tv_bad_girlI have been shooting with the Sony EX-1 a few weeks ago. An interior shot with tungsten light – i know, an invitation to noise… Nevertheless three quarters of the shots we’re doing are interiors and i have never seen so much noise in the picture ever before. The difference was that instead of using cine gamma-1, i switched to cine-gamma 3 and 4 for that day. It was probably visible on our reference monitor, but that day i didn’t pay much attention to it because i was on the dolly – my colleague Karl was watching the monitors and i did not hear him complain.

I am even considering a reshoot of all scenes shot that day; i have never seen such a lot of rubbish coming from any modern camera. The levels are OK, no in-camera corrections, just bags of noise – in faces, in shadows, in blues, in grays. Hopeless…

Whe did some further testing that evening; did that before too. I knew that the cine gamma’s above 2 were giving more noise – it’s all my own fault. But… even with the other gamma settings, it’s noise noise noise with the EX1. In daylight it performs OK.

In my opinion; the EX1 is NOT a professional camera and disappoints me on a regular basis. For what it delivers, apart from full HD, it’s not worth the money and this is  definitely the last thing i’ll shoot professionally with that camera. We’ll add it to the rental stock after we are finished, or put it on ebay.

And, yes, the EX3 looks as bad. A lot of crap for a lot of money. You can almost call it an achievement to produce an all-digital solid state camera that produces so much noise and garbage. Sony: i am very disappointed.

If i’d have to buy a camera now today, i’d buy a Scarlet kit and i’d be cheaper off too. But, hey, the EX1 is four months old now – so i’ts almost antique anyway.

I’ll put an apologie on the credits of Birth of a Song saying: Marvels Film apologizes for the electronic noise and defects you have experienced during this film. Please contact Sony Europe for more information…


6 Responses to “EX1 noise spoils shoot, i’ve really had it with the Sony EX series!!”


  1. July 6, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    i have shot with all the cameras in this price range and have found the ex series to have much worse noise. The HPX300 and JVCHM700 are REALLY noisy.

  2. 2 Chris
    July 10, 2009 at 4:57 am

    Your experience with the Sony EX series is clearly uncommon. The rest of us have consistently gotten clean, beautiful results. I suspect your setup is wrong. You should try Philip Bloom’s settings. Or read the countless picture profile settings in the forums. These cameras kick ass if you know how to set them up, and I’ve been buying broadcast cameras worth ten times as much for 25 years.

  3. 3 marvelsfilm
    July 10, 2009 at 10:23 am

    Chris, i do not agree. First of all, we ourselves are the source of many pictureprofiles and discussions on the subject😉
    Further, Googleing on EX1 noise brings up a number of discussions from disappointed EX1 owners that complain about the noise.

    You mention Phil Bloom… Read his comment at the top of this thread.

    Martin

  4. July 10, 2009 at 10:36 am

    I mistyped…i meant to say the EX has the LEAST noise!!! sorry I type too fast. Seriously the EX is cleaner than just about an camera I have used…in ALL price ranges….

  5. July 10, 2009 at 10:36 am

    WHat a terrible typo to make!!

  6. 6 marvelsfilm
    July 10, 2009 at 10:40 am

    Haha, yes Philip – that’s bad😉

    OK – i agree ofcourse. The camera is cool. Nevertheless do some gamma settings result in excessive noise. There is a lot of discussion going on AND i have even heard of cameras that were sent to Sony and returned magically cured. Such a shame that i have no guarantee whatsoever…

    Martin


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