21
Nov
10

New Marvels Cine picture style for Canon!!

UPDATE: please follow the link “marvels cine for hdslr” at the top of this blog for more information and updated profile.


We are delighted to announce our new Picture Style for the Canon D series HDSLR cameras: “Marvels Cine 2.1 Panalog“. This picture style features a mild S-curve and is less flat than other flat profiles. It also includes an advanced color correction scheme based on a Panavision Genesis Panalog cinema S-curve. It is the Picture Style we’ll be using on our Canon 5D MKII b-camera for our new feature film “History of fear”. The profile was originally devised to match the Panavision Genesis with the Canon 5D MKII.

The panalog color correction is performed on a Genesis DPX raw framegrab of a correctly exposed MacBeth colorcard and Kodak grayscale card, with the camera set to a Panalog 4 s-curve, colormatrix off, saturation off and filter pre-set to 3200 K, recording in RGB 4:4:4 SQ, with the nominal sensibility indicated by Panavision Spain of 400ASA. Courtesy of Alfonso Parra.

The original Genesis DPX framegrab file (5.7 MB)  is here.

It can be viewed with the Panavision DPX viewer available from the Panavision website here.

This is not a replacement for the renowned “canon 7d picture style with cine-gamma (s) curve” style, but a new and additional picture style for all you independent shooters out there who want a professional semi-flat profile.

The picture style is developed by Martin Beek in cooperation with Bart Keimen for Marvels Film and can be downloaded here:

http://mediatube.marvelsfilm.com/marvels_cine_v2.1_panalog.pf2

Thanks to Jorgen Escher (Fraunhofer institut), Alfonso Parra AEC and Robert Dury (Panavision rental UK).

I have shot a few seconds using standard 5600k daylight setting and used the standard FCP filters to put the blacks on zero, dialed up the saturation and lifted the overall luminance to read 70% on the face. No other filters or color correction applied. You can watch this test here, showing “before” and “after”:
http://www.youtube.com/user/marvelsfilm#p/c/5D2A185F5F5C92C2/2/beJH1hGYlC0

Don’t be alarmed by the noise; this was shot indoors on a cloudy day with ISO 640 and a slow lens; slightly under exposed, at F4 wideopen. This test is to demonstrate the color rendition, not the exposure as such.

The picture style is released into the public domain and can be copied and distributed freely. The file link above will remain hosted on our server until the end of days, so feel free to link to the file. For those having problems downloading the file, we provide the following ZIP file download: http://mediatube.marvelsfilm.com/marvels_cine_v2.1_panalog.pf2.zip.

UPDATE NOV 26 2010: you should use the whole ISO numbers (“native ISO”) for contrasty shoots (100-200-400-800-…) and the “broken” ISO numbers (125-320-640…) for low contrast scenes.Why? Because the native ISO’s maybe produce a slight bit of extra noise, but do provide much more headroom for highlights.  Also switch off the Highlight Priority setting in the camera when shooting video.

Cheers!

Martin.

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26 Responses to “New Marvels Cine picture style for Canon!!”


  1. November 22, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Hi Martin

    I usually shoot pretty flat but I would love to test out your new picture style..although I’ve never installed a picture style before on my 5D MKII – 1D MKIV.

    Do I download it onto my CF card and turn on the camera, search through the menus etc like firmware upgrades (tried this and can’t seem to find it) or do I have to do something else?

    Sorry if this has already been asked, I cant find any info on this.

    Kid Regards
    Daniel

  2. 3 marvelsfilm
    November 22, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    Daniel. The best way is to use the Canon EOS-Capture remote control application that comes with the camera on CD, or can be downloaded from Canon (http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010252.asp)

    Cheers!
    Martin

  3. November 22, 2010 at 5:51 pm

    when i open the EOS Utility I go into (Camera Settings/Remote Shooting)… Right? then what do I do?

    If I try to drag it in or anything like that nothing seems to happen!

  4. 5 Dave
    November 26, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Hey Martin,

    I can’t wait to try out this new profile. As I’ve gotten great results from your cine gamma 7D picture style.

    One question though:

    I had previously asked you about the use of the original 7D cine gamma profile, and you had told me that it was best to use it in high contrast situations and/or in sunlight. In low-contrast situations (especially when lit with tungsten lights) you recommended using the Neutral Profile with contrast and sharpness set one peg up from the left, and saturation dialed down 2-3 pegs.

    Would you now recommend using the panalog profile for low-contrast situations instead of your neutral settings? Or is the panalog picture profile more about “look”.

    -Dave

  5. 6 marvelsfilm
    November 26, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Hey Dave.

    Indeed. That does sound logical and i agree; i have shot both video and photographs with this new profile under all kinds of conditions.
    Although i will amend my original post, because i have to add that you should use the whole ISO numbers (“native ISO”) for contrasty shoots (100-200-400-800-…) and the “broken” ISO numbers (125-320-640…) for low contrast scenes.
    Why? Because the native ISO’s do maybe produce a slight bit of extra noise, but do provide much more headroom for highlights. Also switch off the Highlight Priority setting in the camera when shooting video.

    Let me know what you think of this profile!

    Cheers!

    Martin

  6. 7 louis li
    November 30, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    need some help with this.

    cant seem to DL this file. am using a mac.
    when i try the http://mediatube.marvelsfilm.com/marvels_cine_v2.1_panalog.pf2.
    it comes out as code gibberish on a new page.
    when i DL the zip file, and try to extract the file, it states that they cannot find a application to open it.

    is this a mac issue? or am i just doing it wrong.

    note. im also having the same issues with your previous picture profile

    please help, thank you!

  7. 8 marvelsfilm
    November 30, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    Hello Louis.

    The problem is, that your computer does indeed not recognize the .pf2 files (yet). In order to solve that (and to transfer the file to your camera) make sure to first download and install the Canon remote control application from: http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010252.asp . After installation, your Mac will know how to save and open this type of file.

    If this still is not working, make sure to save the file to your harddisk (e.g. the desktop) by holding the Ctrl key on your Mac keyboard while clicking on the download link, this will let you select “Save link as”. This will prevent the opening of the file by your browser.

    I hope this all helps; let me know…

    Cheers!
    Martin

  8. 9 louis
    November 30, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    thanks martin. ure awesome.

  9. December 2, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    how much will it be different on 550d?

  10. 11 marvelsfilm
    December 5, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    Hello Humza.

    There will be no difference…

    Martin

  11. December 31, 2010 at 12:32 am

    Hey Martin, I created a video tutorial where I color from your new custom picture style, it was easier than I thought. Please check it out and let me know if I am heading in the right direction:

    http://www.learningdslrvideo.com/color-correcting-t2i/

    Dave Dugdale

  12. 13 marvelsfilm
    December 31, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    Dave.

    I love your tutorials! Very good job, specially like the phone ringing around 6:25! Good you kept that, haha.
    Which profile did you exactly use?

    Thanks and happy new year;

    Martin

  13. January 1, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    I am using the marvels_cine_v2.1_panalog.pf2. Is that a good one for a newbie like myself?

  14. 15 marvelsfilm
    January 2, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Hello Dave.

    I am curious what you think of the latest “v3″ profiles, either the high or lowcontrast versions. They are in fact identical to the Panalog version, with the color correction switched off. Aim interested to learn if the panalog’s whitepoint is further of or vice-versa. It’s a bit camera dependent as far as I understand.

    Thanks and regards,

    Martin Beek

  15. January 2, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Martin,

    I should have some time today to compare all three (the one I am using now and the two new ones). I will let you know when I have a video up comparing all three and how well I am able to color correct or grade them (with the little experience I have).

    Dave Dugdale (LearningDSLRVideo.com)

  16. January 3, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    OK Martin I finished the comparison video for you here:

    http://www.learningdslrvideo.com/dslr-picture-style-beginners/

    I mentioned you in the video. :)

    I am really starting to like the 2.3 low contrast best.

    If you feel my video is worthy, feel free to embed it on your site so others can see some of the differences.

    Thanks!
    Dave Dugdale (learningDSLRVideo.com)

  17. 18 marvelsfilm
    January 7, 2011 at 11:32 am

    UPDATE JAN 8 2011: after getting hands-on experience and feedback from users of the new Marvels Picture profiles (2.3 and Panalog) posted below, i am currently pushing forward (in our planning) the development of the new and final Marvels Cine Flat profile “3.1”. I, as a filmmaker with a specific taste for the elusive “film look”, am not entirely satisfied with the s-curve that has been provided by Bart Keimen for the recent profiles. I am currently test shooting with an all new picture profile that is much more advanced than any other profile and with an s-curve that is not only mathematically correct, but also mimics the s-curve of film stock AND offers control over it’s “flatness”. The profiles will no longer be made with the Canon Picture Profile Editor, but with an in-house developed application; it’s crude and not sexy, but can calculate curves based on mathematical functions instead of user/mouse input. The mathematical functions have been provided by Jorg Escher of Fraunhofer and we’ll work together next week to finalize the application and provide one or more profiles to work with. So, for now, i regard the “2.3” picture profiles as betas for you all to experiment with.

  18. 19 D'Mej
    August 14, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    am use canon t2i, just seeing the sample of this style love it

  19. November 30, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Terribly well executed piece!

  20. 21 ojie
    February 8, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    would you give me another link to download becouse link not found… thanks

  21. 22 marvelsfilm
    February 8, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    Hello Olje.

    The download links on http://marvelsfilm.wordpress.com/marvels-cine-canon/ are working fine.

    Cheers!

    Martin Beek.

  22. August 6, 2012 at 12:22 am

    I found your blog web site on google and examine a couple of of your early posts. Continue to keep up the excellent operate. I simply further up your RSS feed to my MSN Information Reader. In search of forward to studying more from you afterward!


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